That didn't quite work out as planned...

General non-technical questions and comments about the cars.
Message
Author
User avatar
kevinw
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 1028
Joined: Fri May 11, 2007 2:22 pm
Location: Fareham, Hampshire on the Sunny South Coast

That didn't quite work out as planned...

#1 Post by kevinw »

I'm a bit disappointed with the quality of the paint that was applied to my car 42 years ago when it was first built. In a few places, especially those vulnerable places behind the rear wheels and below the wrap around bits of the bumper, it has started to fall off in places.

So, removed all the paint in the area back to bare metal, scrubbed out the small little pock marks of r*st and painted with phosphoric acid before gently abrading and applying several light coats of zinc primer of the self etch variety. Left this to dry over 2 days, rubbed down with ever finer wet n dry, mixed up some paint to get a close match using pattern French Blue from a professional paint supplier with a little white tint to match the aged and weather bleached original paint and put on 3 light coats. Two more sets of 3 coats over the course of 20 minutes or so, waiting for the underlying paint to just go off before applying more and feeling rather pleased with myself that the colour match is almost perfect and the finish as good as Canley number 1 paint shop, even down to matching the slight orange peel effect. :)

Cleaned everything up (takes longer than the actual painting) stinking out the neighbourhood with the fumes of gunwash. Then I noticed two sags in the paint :roll:

So I'm going to have to let it harden for a week or two and attack it in the approved way to remove the sag.

Kevin
Kevin Warrington


No longer any Triumphs in the garage
but there is a bright red Mercedes SLK250
overtontriumph
Groupie
Groupie
Posts: 48
Joined: Mon Sep 09, 2013 1:29 pm
Location: Overton, Hampshire

Re: That didn't quite work out as planned...

#2 Post by overtontriumph »

Someone once told me of a method using a soft bar of soap while the paint was still semi-fluid.............
Not sure how it works but maybe someone else does..........
jimd
Groupie
Groupie
Posts: 81
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:28 pm
Location: Bishops Stortford,Herts

Re: That didn't quite work out as planned...

#3 Post by jimd »

..regarding the poor paint job, have you checked the warranty, or contacted the manufacturer, it could be bad publicity for Triumph !! :D
Bishops Stortford,Herts
Register Member 1158
1972 - 2.5PI Saloon in Pimento
1972 - 2000 Saloon in Valencia
User avatar
kevinw
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 1028
Joined: Fri May 11, 2007 2:22 pm
Location: Fareham, Hampshire on the Sunny South Coast

Re: That didn't quite work out as planned...

#4 Post by kevinw »

jimd wrote:..regarding the poor paint job, have you checked the warranty, or contacted the manufacturer, it could be bad publicity for Triumph !! :D
I suppose if you buy a car made just before a shift end on a Friday in December you kind of have to expect bits to start dropping off after 42 years :lol: :lol: :lol:

Checked the paint again this morning - I should be able to rework it later this week, hopefully. A bit of wet n dry wrapped around a small file followed by a couple of hours with 1800 grit paper should get it back ready to polish
Kevin Warrington


No longer any Triumphs in the garage
but there is a bright red Mercedes SLK250
User avatar
Alan Chatterton
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 2945
Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2004 11:18 pm
Location: Redditch, Worcestershire

Re: That didn't quite work out as planned...

#5 Post by Alan Chatterton »

Polisher!
Alan Chatterton

Location; Redditch

DEL 33 1972 Lines Stag Estate Tartan Red

Blog http://vml3m.blogspot.com/
Polly
Groupie
Groupie
Posts: 88
Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:08 pm
Location: Peterhead

That didn't quite work out as planned...

#6 Post by Polly »

Oh Alan, you've got a friend.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Triumph 2000 Mk1 Slate Grey
Triumph 2.5 PI Mk2 Damson
Triumph Tr7 V8 Grinnall (Ramstein) Signal Red
Landrover Discovery 3.9 V8
Reliant Kitten
MGZS
MGZR
User avatar
Alan Chatterton
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 2945
Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2004 11:18 pm
Location: Redditch, Worcestershire

Re: That didn't quite work out as planned...

#7 Post by Alan Chatterton »

It's about time!!
Alan Chatterton

Location; Redditch

DEL 33 1972 Lines Stag Estate Tartan Red

Blog http://vml3m.blogspot.com/
Mike Stevens
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 3649
Joined: Mon May 08, 2006 9:50 pm
Location: South Oxfordshire, UK

Re: That didn't quite work out as planned...

#8 Post by Mike Stevens »

While the paint is still soft, it is possible to use a razor blade in a special adjustable holder to take off the top of the run. This does reduce the amount of cutting required later. If the paint gets too hard though, it has a habit of chipping off rather than cutting. And of course, them chips off far too much!

Good luck.

Cheers,
Mike.
(South Oxfordshire)
Register Member No 0355
1971 2.5PI Saloon Sapphire blue
1973 2.5PI Saloon rust some Honeysuckle
1973 Stag French blue
(1949 LandRover which is now back to its original light green!)
User avatar
kevinw
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 1028
Joined: Fri May 11, 2007 2:22 pm
Location: Fareham, Hampshire on the Sunny South Coast

Re: That didn't quite work out as planned...

#9 Post by kevinw »

I've got one of those tools, but have never found it to be much good for long sags in the paint but just about OK for getting out insects when they land on wet paint intent on suicide.

In the end, I decided to do it properly and attacked it with some 180 grit this morning and will repaint the top coat. Car is going for MOT tomorrow and the forecast is wet, so it will need to wait until next week to get done.
Kevin Warrington


No longer any Triumphs in the garage
but there is a bright red Mercedes SLK250
User avatar
kevinw
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 1028
Joined: Fri May 11, 2007 2:22 pm
Location: Fareham, Hampshire on the Sunny South Coast

Re: That didn't quite work out as planned...

#10 Post by kevinw »

Someone is out to get me!

I decided the only way to do this was to remove the bumper. Stuck my head in the boot, couldn't find the securing bolts, Ann suggests I email Sharon (racyredcar) knowing both her cars are bumperless. Removed the 2 rear bolts and nearside, seem to have broken the retaining nut on the offside as it is just rotating and not coming loose. So I thought I'd just carefully rotate and lower the bumper to clear the area I wanted to work on. I dropped the bumper, scratching the paint that was formerly OK on both wings :oops:

Spent the rest of the morning getting a reasonable surface to repaint, got the little spray gun ready and sprayed. The area is now a bit too big to do with the little gun and so the "row" above is dry before I spray the next "row" and I think it is going to show.

So I then intended to put on one or two coats with the big pukka (Sealey Gold S701G, highly recommended) spray gun. Tightened the paint cup as there is a little ooze of French Blue paint and discovered that there is a split in the paint cup, right on the joint where it goes onto the gun. Paint everywhere, mostly over me...

Clean up twp spray guns, pour a litre of gunwash into an ice cream container, disassemble everything and start cleaning. Trip over the 5 litre can of gun wash, sending the container for the used stuff flying as well. Luckily, both have their tops on, so none spilt. Finally get everything cleaned up and put my elbow into the ice cream pot with a litre of now dirty gunwash, spilling it all over the bench. Garage and attached house now smell like a pear drops factory, I look like I am covered in woad and certain people are not impressed.

Kevin
Kevin Warrington


No longer any Triumphs in the garage
but there is a bright red Mercedes SLK250
Post Reply