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#1 Post by Landscape21 » Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:22 am

Hi, I need a front lower valance for my 2000 mk1, also would like to know if it’s possible to convert to power steering, mine is almost impossible at the moment at low speed, Anthony

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#2 Post by Mike Stevens » Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:49 am

Hi Anthony,

Glad to see you on here at last!

Chris Witor (https://www.chriswitor.com/products.php?cat=245&pg=3) lists a Mk1 lower valance but as out of stock. You could also try Lloyd (https://southwalestriumphs.com/) as he is getting new panels made but I don't l know about Mk1.

PAS on a Mk1, yes it can be done using the standard Mk2 bits. You'll 'just' need pump and hoses, brackets for the pump, extra front engine pulley, rack C/W ball joints, steering levers on the hubs and some time to do it! Again, look at Lloyds site, I know he's sold conversion kits before. I've upgraded from manual to PAS steering in the past but on a Mk2.

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Re: Valance

#3 Post by johnnydog » Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:04 am

Hi Anthony,
The front valence for the Mk1 has been a difficult to source item for a good while, although Register Member Lloyd Reed of South Wales Triumphs has invested heavily over recent years in the remanufacture of Triumph panels, and I recollect that he was asking a while back for a genuine front Mk1 valance to use as a pattern, but whether he got one.....? lloyd.reed02@gmail.com
The Mk1 valance is a lot more intricate than the Mk2, and there is a lot more to it than just the areas visible under the front bumper.
As for the PAS on a Mk1, depending on the age of your Mk1, late models from around late 1968 had an indentation on the offside chassis rail (visible from under the bonnet) to accomodate the larger intermediate steering shaft needed with PAS. If yours has this indentation, then you "only" need the PAS parts to fit it.
Maybe someone can say whether it is possible to fit PAS to a Mk1 without the indentation in the chassis rail (without resorting to a gas torch to reprofile the chassis rail :lol:)
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#4 Post by Landscape21 » Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:37 pm

Thanks for your replies, I have been in touch with Chris Witor and Lloyd in Wales. I’ll take a look at the chassis rail. I’ll get the whole steering setup looked at and checked for free movement of all the joints and linkages, most of the rubber grommets/gaiters are very old and need replacing, this all points to part of the reason why the steering is so heavy at low speed, I did own one of these cars when I was 23(46 years ago!!) and don’t remember it being so hard to turn the wheel!. Will keep you posted. Cheers

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#5 Post by johnnydog » Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:21 pm

I have 3 Triumphs with manual steering (2 Mk1's and 1 Mk2), and the feel of the steering varies greatly between them. In the 'good old days' when there was an abundance of rust riddled Triumphs that were only good for breaking, I tagged up the good manual steering racks I removed that were light in feel in case I had to replace the rack on any others of mine.
Tyres do make a difference, as do the top strut mounts, and the ball joints. Any stiffness in any joints can make the steering feel heavier, especially whilst manoeuvring, so a good check of these components, as you have said, makes sense before going down the PAS route.
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Re: Valance

#6 Post by Clifford Pope » Wed Dec 29, 2021 5:14 pm

In my view a properly set up steering system doesn't need power assistance. It's useful for those rare occasions when you really do need to turn the wheel from lock to lock while stationary, but we don't do that do we because it wears the tyres out :)

The first test is to jack up both front wheels off the ground and see if the steering turns easily. If it doesn't, then you know what to check next.

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Re: Valance

#7 Post by Landscape21 » Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:41 am

Thanks to all for your advice

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